I am new here as well as new to trading Forex. I have searched quite a few different forums and from what I have found is in general most people seem to feel that the systems that can be bought from the "guru's" are, in general, not worth it. I can't help but wonder though why they wouldn't be. Is it because they tend to simplify it too much so as to appeal to people to the point that they tend to give false signals? I am suprised that there doesn't seem to be at least one system that is generally regarded well. Maybe there is but I have not heard of any yet. There are so many indicators for a newbie starting out it is hard to figure out where to start. Any advice on which indicators you use as the main go to indicators to decide whether or not there is a set up forming that is worth futher investigating? I also find it a bit disconcerning that whenever the question is asked if anyone is successful enough to do this full time there are very few, if any, who are able to yet. Is that because as people become sucessful they tend to not bother visiting these forums anymore? For those here who are successful, what % of return can you confidently say a person could achieve with enough time and practice? I know everybody will have different results and I don't want anybody to give out personal information like that but I am more interested to know what kind of return is a realistic goal that can be achieved relatively consistently. The expected percentage of return per year on an account can make a drastic difference on the size of the account required to make a living off of. Sorry for the long post but I am torn between thinking that I can achieve my goal of trading successfully and the prospect that I can spend as much time as I want studying this but it will remain an elusive goal. TIA.